Post by Shinryu on Feb 16, 2015 6:28:08 GMT -7
That was kinda borderline ignorant or even racist how it came out lol.
"That one black lady in Vegas... ha Tidus... only a crazy person would have their pant leg up like that, she must have been a drug addict or homeless or something."
this is actually a very popular urban city style and Hip Hop trend among black people that originated in the 90s and became mainstream and popularized around the world in the early 2000s.
Japan obviously picked up on this and Nomura was probably inspired for his design of Tidus by the hip urban trends that were popular around that time in big cities.
Here is the 2002 Missy Elliott's famous Work It music video (it was performed on the last Super Bowl halftime show btw)
It shows her wearing pants in this style.
Here is also a scene from the 2008 movie Step Up 2, where the character Andie West (played by Briana Evigan) is into breakdancing and in this scene she wears her pants like this.
Then there are multiple claims of the origins of the style.
1) There is Jamaican bicycle origin where in the 90s Jamaican people and bicycle messengers would ride their bikes around all the time but wear very baggy pants and they would get caught in the chains and rip holes in them or fray their pants and in order to prevent this they started folding the pant leg up high to their knee on the side of the bike where their bike chain was and wouldn't bother pulling their pant leg down each time they stopped and got off their bike so it eventually just became a sort of style that was later popularized by current singers and then American rappers and hip hop artists discovered it and started copying it.
2) There is the Gang origin that in New York City and LA in order to show if you were a part of a gang, were carrying a gun, had drugs on you, or a variety of other things you would fold your right or left pant leg up to a certain part of one leg to let other people of your gang or other rival gangs what you had or what you were doing. It also has another meaning of showing that you are "free" and don't have any arrest anklet on your ankle and that you are tough. Also goes in with the fact that if you are on Death Row and going to be executed that they sit you down and roll up one of your pants legs so the electricity makes a connection or something (see the movie Green Mile) and tough guys sport this look go with their "I'm a dangerous gangsta" look.
LL Cool J was one of the guys that really did this back in the 90s.
www.complex.com/style/2013/05/style-trends-started-by-rappers/pant-leg
even Sarah Jessica Parker rocked this style 2 years ago.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2430800/Sarah-Jessica-Parker-rolls-trouser-leg-heads-New-York.html
Regardless its part of urban hip hop culture and is mostly seen only in big cities like LA and NYC for example. You usually only see black people or other minority groups dressing this way but you do find some white people that dress this way too. If you go to any urban street dance schools in each class you will find a few guys and girls that will wear their pant legs like this and if if you go to any urban high schools in the city you will find this style in the classroom among the popular kids.
Just thought I would let you know because where I'm from (NYC) this is pretty common and you guys sounded a bit clueless on the subject
"That one black lady in Vegas... ha Tidus... only a crazy person would have their pant leg up like that, she must have been a drug addict or homeless or something."
this is actually a very popular urban city style and Hip Hop trend among black people that originated in the 90s and became mainstream and popularized around the world in the early 2000s.
Japan obviously picked up on this and Nomura was probably inspired for his design of Tidus by the hip urban trends that were popular around that time in big cities.
Here is the 2002 Missy Elliott's famous Work It music video (it was performed on the last Super Bowl halftime show btw)
It shows her wearing pants in this style.
Here is also a scene from the 2008 movie Step Up 2, where the character Andie West (played by Briana Evigan) is into breakdancing and in this scene she wears her pants like this.
Then there are multiple claims of the origins of the style.
1) There is Jamaican bicycle origin where in the 90s Jamaican people and bicycle messengers would ride their bikes around all the time but wear very baggy pants and they would get caught in the chains and rip holes in them or fray their pants and in order to prevent this they started folding the pant leg up high to their knee on the side of the bike where their bike chain was and wouldn't bother pulling their pant leg down each time they stopped and got off their bike so it eventually just became a sort of style that was later popularized by current singers and then American rappers and hip hop artists discovered it and started copying it.
2) There is the Gang origin that in New York City and LA in order to show if you were a part of a gang, were carrying a gun, had drugs on you, or a variety of other things you would fold your right or left pant leg up to a certain part of one leg to let other people of your gang or other rival gangs what you had or what you were doing. It also has another meaning of showing that you are "free" and don't have any arrest anklet on your ankle and that you are tough. Also goes in with the fact that if you are on Death Row and going to be executed that they sit you down and roll up one of your pants legs so the electricity makes a connection or something (see the movie Green Mile) and tough guys sport this look go with their "I'm a dangerous gangsta" look.
LL Cool J was one of the guys that really did this back in the 90s.
www.complex.com/style/2013/05/style-trends-started-by-rappers/pant-leg
even Sarah Jessica Parker rocked this style 2 years ago.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2430800/Sarah-Jessica-Parker-rolls-trouser-leg-heads-New-York.html
Regardless its part of urban hip hop culture and is mostly seen only in big cities like LA and NYC for example. You usually only see black people or other minority groups dressing this way but you do find some white people that dress this way too. If you go to any urban street dance schools in each class you will find a few guys and girls that will wear their pant legs like this and if if you go to any urban high schools in the city you will find this style in the classroom among the popular kids.
Just thought I would let you know because where I'm from (NYC) this is pretty common and you guys sounded a bit clueless on the subject
