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Post by chocobochica on Aug 25, 2015 6:51:23 GMT -7
What I would like is there not to be a remake, we don't need it. I know a lot of people been bitching about remake since ps2 days but I want new ideas for this series, why revisit something we already like? It's laziness, its like rebooting a movie which is also lazy. They know this will sell, that's the only reason for this. Some would say that's reason enough, but it's still lazy. We want new worlds to explore, new characters to journey with, new stories to love. We don't need this remake, fans say they want it but no matter how great they remake it, it will never satisfy fans enough. *insert Eddard Stark prepare yourself meme of choice* |
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Post by schnitzeltime on Aug 25, 2015 13:06:24 GMT -7
What I would like is there not to be a remake, we don't need it. I know a lot of people been bitching about remake since ps2 days but I want new ideas for this series, why revisit something we already like? It's laziness, its like rebooting a movie which is also lazy. They know this will sell, that's the only reason for this. Some would say that's reason enough, but it's still lazy. We want new worlds to explore, new characters to journey with, new stories to love. We don't need this remake, fans say they want it but no matter how great they remake it, it will never satisfy fans enough. I agree with everything you said, but I still think the game is worth a shot at least. It may be money-driven, but so was The Dark Knight which is a reimagining of the Batman story just as this is supposedly a revamping of the original. The Dark Knight is my favorite movie of all time. I could go back and watch Batman with jack Nicholson as the Joker. But it's nice to have both options to enjoy. There won't be new characters or stories to love I guess, but I feel like it'll still be different enough since it'll be rewritten and voice acted that it will be an extremely new experience all the same. That's just my take. If it reinvigorates SE to move forward and hopefully make a great FFXVI and onward, then I think it'll be worth it to be content with their remake. |
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Post by yuuxi on Aug 25, 2015 13:45:06 GMT -7
What I would like is there not to be a remake, we don't need it. I know a lot of people been bitching about remake since ps2 days but I want new ideas for this series, why revisit something we already like? It's laziness, its like rebooting a movie which is also lazy. They know this will sell, that's the only reason for this. Some would say that's reason enough, but it's still lazy. We want new worlds to explore, new characters to journey with, new stories to love. We don't need this remake, fans say they want it but no matter how great they remake it, it will never satisfy fans enough. I don't agree. A remake posits that there's going to be a great deal of deviation from the source material. A rebuilding of VII from the ground up is not laziness. That's like saying Tomb Raider reboot and the original are one in the same. They are not. An FFVII remake would give all of us fans of the original VII a look at Gaea, the gameplay, the characters, Midgar, etc. from an entirely different perspective. Regardless of how you may feel about it, an FFVII remake will definitely be an entirely different experience than it's predecessor. I'm all for new ideas and new games, but a remake doesn't hurt. And FFXV is looming on the horizon, so you still have something else to look forward to. VII remake may have been a cash-grab, but so were the XIII sequels (can't be selectively outraged!). A lot of SE's decisions with the FF IP are for the sake of making money and not necessarily just for placating fans. You can thank Wada and his "milk FF dry" agenda for that though. |
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Post by mbastian on Aug 25, 2015 16:27:27 GMT -7
What I would like is there not to be a remake, we don't need it. I know a lot of people been bitching about remake since ps2 days but I want new ideas for this series, why revisit something we already like? It's laziness, its like rebooting a movie which is also lazy. They know this will sell, that's the only reason for this. Some would say that's reason enough, but it's still lazy. We want new worlds to explore, new characters to journey with, new stories to love. We don't need this remake, fans say they want it but no matter how great they remake it, it will never satisfy fans enough. I don't agree. A remake posits that there's going to be a great deal of deviation from the source material. A rebuilding of VII from the ground up is not laziness. That's like saying Tomb Raider reboot and the original are one in the same. They are not. An FFVII remake would give all of us fans of the original VII a look at Gaea, the gameplay, the characters, Midgar, etc. from an entirely different perspective. Regardless of how you may feel about it, an FFVII remake will definitely be an entirely different experience than it's predecessor. I'm all for new ideas and new games, but a remake doesn't hurt. And FFXV is looming on the horizon, so you still have something else to look forward to. VII remake may have been a cash-grab, but so were the XIII sequels (can't be selectively outraged!). A lot of SE's decisions with the FF IP are for the sake of making money and not necessarily just for placating fans. You can thank Wada and his "milk FF dry" agenda for that though. Yup, if your defense is the tomb raider reboot then it still didn't need to happen. Tomb raider ip was drove into the ground before the reboot, it's character couldn't be more different than the new one. It is a reboot that could have been it's own ip actually. |
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Post by yuuxi on Aug 25, 2015 17:07:21 GMT -7
It's a slight example because Tomb Raider (like most remakes) are met with the same kind of "we don't need this" agenda, and the remake actually ends up selling extremely well and being quite dissimilar from the original lol. FFVII remake will be no different.
My point is still valid.
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Post by mbastian on Aug 25, 2015 22:18:09 GMT -7
It's a slight example because Tomb Raider (like most remakes) are met with the same kind of "we don't need this" agenda, and the remake actually ends up selling extremely well and being quite dissimilar from the original lol. FFVII remake will be no different. My point is still valid. I see your point, but it's the practice I'm having trouble. What's the point of remaking it, wouldn't a remaster be better? I'd be happier with a remaster like how they did with ff4 on the psp. Have new gamers enjoy what we enjoyed originally. I think the ps3 tech demo killed that idea but I would have liked that better. |
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Post by yuuxi on Aug 25, 2015 23:46:25 GMT -7
It's a slight example because Tomb Raider (like most remakes) are met with the same kind of "we don't need this" agenda, and the remake actually ends up selling extremely well and being quite dissimilar from the original lol. FFVII remake will be no different. My point is still valid. I see your point, but it's the practice I'm having trouble. What's the point of remaking it, wouldn't a remaster be better? I'd be happier with a remaster like how they did with ff4 on the psp. Have new gamers enjoy what we enjoyed originally. I think the ps3 tech demo killed that idea but I would have liked that better. I mean, if that's something you desire, FF7 PS4 remaster is still coming as well. So the option to enjoy the original content is always there. But yeah, the constant teases of VII tech demos and Advent Children didn't help to quell fans who really wanted to see VII remade. Though tbh, I'm sure that if VI or any other FF game with a large fanbase got that kind of attention, those fans would behave in the same way as VII fans. And then you have to consider the possibility of things like "some people aren't exactly FF fans, but just fans of x particular game," which is why they'd favor a remake so badly. |
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Post by Shinryu on Aug 26, 2015 0:30:58 GMT -7
Game remakes are different than movie remakes. Movie remakes usually suck while game remakes are often critically acclaimed and attract even more new fans to the series than the original did.
The Ys JRPG series remakes of the original games are better and sell more than the original games.
Metroid Zero Mission on the GBA was a remake of the original NES Metroid and is 100x better.
Zelda a Link to the Past remake on the GBA is better than the SNES version.
Resident Evil 1 Remake for the Gamecube (and now all modern consoles) is considered a lot better than the original Resident Evil for the Playstation 1.
These are just some examples but for the most part remakes (not reboots) are often really good in the gaming world.
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Post by lightsage on Aug 26, 2015 10:44:29 GMT -7
That's because movies, unlike games, tend to not be dated. You can still enjoy a classic movie like Casablanca and Citizen Kane just as much as you can enjoy the latest summer blockbuster. Videogames, by nature of being almost completely dependent on the tech of the time, are dated. I'm one of the people who LOVED Final Fantasy VII when I played the original PlayStation version for the first time on my PS2. (I loved it so much that I didn't mind that I paid over $90 for it.) But the one downside for me was that the graphics gave me a headache during long play sessions. So I've always been open for a remaster.
And then they announced it as a remake with changes to the battle system. And after some thought, I'm okay with that too. I think my experience with watching a ton of film adaptions for books and video games I like has opened me up to the possibility that some changes are good.
Personally, I would have loved it if the battle system stayed the same. But then I remember that, while I didn't enjoy FFXIII's battle system, I adored Kingdom Heart's battle system, so that sort of battle system can be done right. It raises my hopes in that area a little.
Still going to get this on the first day and play it.
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Post by krinital on Aug 26, 2015 11:03:38 GMT -7
I see your point, but it's the practice I'm having trouble. What's the point of remaking it, wouldn't a remaster be better? I'd be happier with a remaster like how they did with ff4 on the psp. Have new gamers enjoy what we enjoyed originally. I think the ps3 tech demo killed that idea but I would have liked that better. I mean, if that's something you desire, FF7 PS4 remaster is still coming as well. So the option to enjoy the original content is always there. But yeah, the constant teases of VII tech demos and Advent Children didn't help to quell fans who really wanted to see VII remade. Though tbh, I'm sure that if VI or any other FF game with a large fanbase got that kind of attention, those fans would behave in the same way as VII fans. And then you have to consider the possibility of things like "some people aren't exactly FF fans, but just fans of x particular game," which is why they'd favor a remake so badly. Debates like this are what it means to be a true fan of ff. these conversations are like sweet ambrosia, sweet, tangy, sour, crispy, crunchy, tender goodness that is soooooooooo! Good! Everyone is open to voice his or her opinion as long as each has valid points of converse. This game will be bought on the first day by me when it arrives in stores even if I don't have a ps4 yet. I am open to forms of ff I give each and everyone a chance to voice it's version of itself. Some are good some are disappointing but each is unique and brings a new flavor to the table for me. All I bring to the table is to at least give it a chance to speak before you shoot it.  |
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